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	<description>It's not a bug, it's always a feature.</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 08:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: hoffcamp</title>
		<link>http://www.code-styling.de/english/wp-e-commerce-breaks-intentionally-other-plugins-or-themes#comment-2284</link>
		<dc:creator>hoffcamp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 01:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made a plugin &lt;a href="http://www.campbellhoffman.com/form-manager/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, WP e-Commerce compatibility, that does only one thing:  re-register the prototype script library.

Hopefully the WP e-Commerce people will address this in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made a plugin <a href="http://www.campbellhoffman.com/form-manager/" rel="nofollow">here</a>, WP e-Commerce compatibility, that does only one thing:  re-register the prototype script library.</p>
<p>Hopefully the WP e-Commerce people will address this in the near future.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Cao</title>
		<link>http://www.code-styling.de/english/wp-e-commerce-breaks-intentionally-other-plugins-or-themes#comment-2246</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Cao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jul 2011 13:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys,

I'm one of the lead developers of WP e-Commerce.

I admit that the code shouldn't have handled compatibility that way. It was a hack. However we couldn't remove it in our latest 3.8.5, because we need to test thoroughly to make sure removing it doesn't break something else. If there's indeed still some compatibility issue, we need to fix the root of the problem and test the solution.

We will include this fix in our upcoming 3.8.6 release, which probably will be ready next week.

Thanks again for bringing this into our attention, although I personally think it would have been nicer if you had sent us an email and let us have a chance to fix it first.

Gary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m one of the lead developers of WP e-Commerce.</p>
<p>I admit that the code shouldn&#8217;t have handled compatibility that way. It was a hack. However we couldn&#8217;t remove it in our latest 3.8.5, because we need to test thoroughly to make sure removing it doesn&#8217;t break something else. If there&#8217;s indeed still some compatibility issue, we need to fix the root of the problem and test the solution.</p>
<p>We will include this fix in our upcoming 3.8.6 release, which probably will be ready next week.</p>
<p>Thanks again for bringing this into our attention, although I personally think it would have been nicer if you had sent us an email and let us have a chance to fix it first.</p>
<p>Gary.</p>
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		<title>By: toClanWars</title>
		<link>http://www.code-styling.de/english/wp-e-commerce-breaks-intentionally-other-plugins-or-themes#comment-2232</link>
		<dc:creator>toClanWars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jun 2011 02:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't believe too much in those kind words, Dan.

It seems to me that "Codestyling Localization" guy &lt;a href="http://code.google.com/p/wp-e-commerce/issues/detail?id=436" rel="nofollow"&gt;didn't bring first your attention on this&lt;/a&gt;.

As is read in that link it seems that there are vested interests around your commercial plugins for not removing that piece of code.

I bought yesterday your "Gold Cart Plugin" and I've spent one day of work trying to guess what piece of code broke completely down my WP Admin zone functionality.

As I thought your plugin was a bullet proof one, I firstly aimed on the Theme and on other Plugins.

I finished up in this page to find out the truth: You are culprit of an absolutly Rambo way of programming (as very well said by the owner of this web).

The sad thing is that there isn't a word about this in your own Support Forums.

I cross my fingers for not finding more incompatibilities now on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe too much in those kind words, Dan.</p>
<p>It seems to me that &#8220;Codestyling Localization&#8221; guy <a href="http://code.google.com/p/wp-e-commerce/issues/detail?id=436" rel="nofollow">didn&#8217;t bring first your attention on this</a>.</p>
<p>As is read in that link it seems that there are vested interests around your commercial plugins for not removing that piece of code.</p>
<p>I bought yesterday your &#8220;Gold Cart Plugin&#8221; and I&#8217;ve spent one day of work trying to guess what piece of code broke completely down my WP Admin zone functionality.</p>
<p>As I thought your plugin was a bullet proof one, I firstly aimed on the Theme and on other Plugins.</p>
<p>I finished up in this page to find out the truth: You are culprit of an absolutly Rambo way of programming (as very well said by the owner of this web).</p>
<p>The sad thing is that there isn&#8217;t a word about this in your own Support Forums.</p>
<p>I cross my fingers for not finding more incompatibilities now on.</p>
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		<title>By: Raz</title>
		<link>http://www.code-styling.de/english/wp-e-commerce-breaks-intentionally-other-plugins-or-themes#comment-2213</link>
		<dc:creator>Raz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2011 05:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi CJ. I use the WP e-Commerce Plugin on a number of my client sites and I have not had any issues with it - I am not a developer either. I use the MP3 player and the digital downloader - I just installed them like any other WordPress Plugin. If you need a hand you can email me on razrgeezer at gmail dot com. I am happy to help people setup their WordPress sites - especially when it is to do with music (my little side passion) as I know it can be hard sometimes.

Here is a site I found that uses the WP e-Commerce Plugin to sell music online. I use this link when I am recommending the Plugin to my customers in the music industry: http://tommyandthefallenhorses.com/?page_id=188 

I would NOT recommend using MarketPress. See what Donnacha, one of the lead WordPress developers, has to say about WPMU: http://wpcandy.com/reports/joost-de-valk-accuses-wpmu-dev-of-copyright-infringement.

Dan if you are reading this, do you have any update for us regarding this issue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi CJ. I use the WP e-Commerce Plugin on a number of my client sites and I have not had any issues with it - I am not a developer either. I use the MP3 player and the digital downloader - I just installed them like any other WordPress Plugin. If you need a hand you can email me on razrgeezer at gmail dot com. I am happy to help people setup their WordPress sites - especially when it is to do with music (my little side passion) as I know it can be hard sometimes.</p>
<p>Here is a site I found that uses the WP e-Commerce Plugin to sell music online. I use this link when I am recommending the Plugin to my customers in the music industry: <a href="http://tommyandthefallenhorses.com/?page_id=188" rel="nofollow">http://tommyandthefallenhorses.com/?page_id=188</a> </p>
<p>I would NOT recommend using MarketPress. See what Donnacha, one of the lead WordPress developers, has to say about WPMU: <a href="http://wpcandy.com/reports/joost-de-valk-accuses-wpmu-dev-of-copyright-infringement" rel="nofollow">http://wpcandy.com/reports/joost-de-valk-accuses-wpmu-dev-of-copyright-infringement</a>.</p>
<p>Dan if you are reading this, do you have any update for us regarding this issue?</p>
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		<title>By: cj</title>
		<link>http://www.code-styling.de/english/wp-e-commerce-breaks-intentionally-other-plugins-or-themes#comment-2206</link>
		<dc:creator>cj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 05:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess it was nice for Dan to come and do damage control, but I am a brand new WP e-commerce purchaser, and since activating it, many of my other plugins do NOT work at all.  I am not a programmer and I don't understand much of what has been written here, but I DO sell music online and wp e-commerce seems to be in the process of making my job VERY VERY hard.  I am not happy right now.  Nothing works right and I have no other options at the moment, even though I already spent the money.  This sucks.  Thanks a lot for nothing.

Sarah, what a great recommendation.  I wish I had known about it before I bought this stupid plugin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it was nice for Dan to come and do damage control, but I am a brand new WP e-commerce purchaser, and since activating it, many of my other plugins do NOT work at all.  I am not a programmer and I don&#8217;t understand much of what has been written here, but I DO sell music online and wp e-commerce seems to be in the process of making my job VERY VERY hard.  I am not happy right now.  Nothing works right and I have no other options at the moment, even though I already spent the money.  This sucks.  Thanks a lot for nothing.</p>
<p>Sarah, what a great recommendation.  I wish I had known about it before I bought this stupid plugin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.code-styling.de/english/wp-e-commerce-breaks-intentionally-other-plugins-or-themes#comment-2191</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 03:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We'll be watching you Dan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ll be watching you Dan.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Milward</title>
		<link>http://www.code-styling.de/english/wp-e-commerce-breaks-intentionally-other-plugins-or-themes#comment-2153</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Milward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 23:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for bringing that to our attention, you are right, and we'll fix that asap. Ill link to the changesets in Trac as soon as we have it patched for you.

Our motives were definitely not to break other people's plugins but to fix something in our own Plugin. We have a massive community of Plugin developers that make their living selling WP e-Commerce add-on Plugins. The last thing we want to do is make it hard for people.

Best
Dan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for bringing that to our attention, you are right, and we&#8217;ll fix that asap. Ill link to the changesets in Trac as soon as we have it patched for you.</p>
<p>Our motives were definitely not to break other people&#8217;s plugins but to fix something in our own Plugin. We have a massive community of Plugin developers that make their living selling WP e-Commerce add-on Plugins. The last thing we want to do is make it hard for people.</p>
<p>Best<br />
Dan</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Gooding</title>
		<link>http://www.code-styling.de/english/wp-e-commerce-breaks-intentionally-other-plugins-or-themes#comment-2152</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Gooding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 22:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should check into MarketPress: http://wpmu.org/marketpress-plugin-gets-a-huge-update-including-a-wp-e-commerce-product-importer/  

It functions much more smoothly and it also has an importer for people previously using WPEC.  You can move all your products over in one click. You  can download it for free in the WP plugins repo: http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wordpress-ecommerce/   Also compatible with multisite networks and BuddyPress</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should check into MarketPress: <a href="http://wpmu.org/marketpress-plugin-gets-a-huge-update-including-a-wp-e-commerce-product-importer/" rel="nofollow">http://wpmu.org/marketpress-plugin-gets-a-huge-update-including-a-wp-e-commerce-product-importer/</a>  </p>
<p>It functions much more smoothly and it also has an importer for people previously using WPEC.  You can move all your products over in one click. You  can download it for free in the WP plugins repo: <a href="http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wordpress-ecommerce/" rel="nofollow">http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wordpress-ecommerce/</a>   Also compatible with multisite networks and BuddyPress</p>
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		<title>By: Clifton Griffin</title>
		<link>http://www.code-styling.de/english/wp-e-commerce-breaks-intentionally-other-plugins-or-themes#comment-2138</link>
		<dc:creator>Clifton Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You only have to do one project with WP-ecommerce to vow never to use it gain.

It's awful software. I've had pretty good luck with Shopp recently. Imperfect as the rest but the devs seem to at least have a plan with a structure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You only have to do one project with WP-ecommerce to vow never to use it gain.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s awful software. I&#8217;ve had pretty good luck with Shopp recently. Imperfect as the rest but the devs seem to at least have a plan with a structure.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Ross</title>
		<link>http://www.code-styling.de/english/wp-e-commerce-breaks-intentionally-other-plugins-or-themes#comment-2136</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jun 2011 11:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for pointing this out for me, it's yet another item to add to a very long list of bug checking on a WordPress blog.

What surprises me is how well structured the WordPress theme reviews are compared to what gets accepted to the WP plugins directory. It's my understanding that the team for themes is massive vs. a small team (or single person) for the plugin repository but I can tell you from experience working closely with the WP review process that something like this would have been flagged before being released as a theme.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for pointing this out for me, it&#8217;s yet another item to add to a very long list of bug checking on a WordPress blog.</p>
<p>What surprises me is how well structured the WordPress theme reviews are compared to what gets accepted to the WP plugins directory. It&#8217;s my understanding that the team for themes is massive vs. a small team (or single person) for the plugin repository but I can tell you from experience working closely with the WP review process that something like this would have been flagged before being released as a theme.</p>
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